Another Sarah by N J Kailhofer
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Re: Another Sarah by N J Kailhofer
Nate! They didn't get the joke! They thought the "Sarahs" were actually chickens!<br><br>I dunno, maybe if Alan had actually SAID "Fee fi fo fum", Donald would have realized that the 'bone bread' reference wasn't accidental ...<br><br>(I'm assuming here that Don wasn't being too subtle for my wee editorial brain, and didn't QUITE catch what you were doing.)<br><br>I suspect that your reputation for copious description has sabotaged you here. You skirted around describing the Sarah in any detail, so the readers assumed that 'cluckers' must be chickens based on what little you did provide (all of which was ambiguous). Now, if you'd remarked on the Sarah's tangled and filthy HAIR, maybe ...<br><br>Robert M.
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<br>I was a bit surprised, but I don't want to ignore someone's input. Maybe the switch at the end wasn't as plain as it could have been.<br><br>At least this way, the next time he reads it, it can be a whole new story. :)<br><br>Nate<br>Nate! They didn't get the joke! They thought the "Sarahs" were actually chickens!
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I suspect that your reputation for copious description has sabotaged you here. You skirted around describing the Sarah in any detail, so the readers assumed that 'cluckers' must be chickens based on what little you did provide (all of which was ambiguous). Now, if you'd remarked on the Sarah's tangled and filthy HAIR, maybe ...
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<br>That's interesting. I hadn't thought of it as mechanical. I'll have to look at that.<br><br>For me, the result was a sort of mechanical cadence that stole some of the story's impact; eg, "Her round face scowled at him under short, black hair. Over her brown, short-sleeved blouse she wore a wide, white apron..."
<br>I was a little let down by the preconception it gives, too, but in Robert's defense, I didn't give him any suggestions. If I had thought about it, I'd have said "Alan did many things for his wife that he didn't want to do, but killing Sarah was something he was really looking forward to--as long as his wife didn't find out why." OR something to that effect. [shrug] Beggars can't be choosers.<br><br>I was hoping for the reader to think he was some kind of serial killer, then relax and realize he's just some henpecked farmer, and then have that Woah! Those aren't chickens! moment. <br><br>That way, even though it was quite short, it could be like it was 3 stories in one, where you start reading, find reality is different, go back & start over, and then have it change again & start again, etc. That might have been somewhat ambitious on my part, however.<br><br>Either way, I'm just glad somebody liked it. I've never written a horror story before. This classifies as that, doesn't it?<br><br>NateI must say that, for me, the blurb under the title's link undercut the strength of the beginning's ambiguity. Not being told what Alan was up to before the story started would've made for a more effective double twist at the end.
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<br>I was very careful to avoid hinting that the 'Sarahs' weren't what the context seemed to indicate that they were; and we don't find out that Alan's wife is named Sarah until near the end. I'm not sure what I gave away ...<br><br>Blurb-writing is one of my least-favorite things (along with coming up with titles for stories). It's like the ultimate form of flash fiction writing (aside from the ultra-evocative phrase that conjures whole worlds in a few words), or 'grabber' writing made even more restrictive.<br><br>Cain't please everybody nohow no way, so's I maht s'well please m'self.<br><br>Robert M....I must say that, for me, the blurb under the title's link undercut the strength of the beginning's ambiguity. Not being told what Alan was up to before the story started would've made for a more effective double twist at the end.
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Okay, FINE! >:( I replaced my blurb with Nate's suggested text.<br><br>(I admit that I was so focused on not giving away the final whammy that I didn't realize I was screwing up the first reversal ... :-[)<br><br>Robert M.
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Re: Another Sarah by N J Kailhofer
THis was your first horror story? Really. I thought it was very good. But its not hard to write horror if your wife has a family, is it? ;D<br> Rob
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<br>Everybody reads things differently, so that's fine, as long as you enjoyed it. But how do you reconcile this quote?<br><br>"And why did she have to keep calling them cluckers? He hated that name. If he was as small as they were, he’d be chicken, too."<br><br>Just curious.<br><br>Nate
I did too get the joke...in a way. I noted that Alan called the cluckers "humans" near the end, and thought his Sarahs might actually be humans. But on the other hand, maybe calling them humans was only a part of his fantasy. So I went back and read the story again, and this excerpt convinced me that they were chickens after all:
>>She rolled her eyes. "She? Oh, don't tell me you named this one, too. Dammit, they're only cluckers -- stupid chickens...<<
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<br>Strange how perfectly normal people turn into the Addams Family when they're your in-laws, isn't it. :)<br><br>Nate<br>
That's prolly where Nate got his idea for the story! :o
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you've got it easy Nate, mine are like the Manson family. :D<br> Rob
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<br>Let's put it this way -- I'm not going to do anything silly like Google for 'missing pets' or 'missing persons' in Nate's area ... you know, just in case ... ::)<br><br>(And you'll notice how quick I was to change the blurb for the story to What Nate Wanted. One might almost suspect that I was afraid of him for some reason ...)<br><br><br>Robert M.<br>Damn you, Nate! I was going to write a story with a similar twist at the end.. LOL
I liked the ambiguity of the ending. It could either mean that Alan was a giant or pretending to be one.
By the way, how did you research on the mechanics of slicing someone's head off? :o
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<br>LMAO.<br><br>The idea struck me while having the census taker over for dinner. I was out of fava beans, and found myself looking at the chicken in the freezer instead... :)<br><br>The truth is simply that I wanted to try to write a horror story. The opening came out of my subconscious & and I saw a way to tie it in with the one and only time I had to butcher chickens with my inlaws. (That will put you off KFC for at least a month.)<br><br>For those of you really creeped out, there's a nice, regular fairy tale coming down the pipe in the next month or two, if that will make you feel better. That is, if Robert gives it a thumbs up...<br><br>NateLet's put it this way -- I'm not going to do anything silly like Google for 'missing pets' or 'missing persons' in Nate's area ... you know, just in case ... ::)
(And you'll notice how quick I was to change the blurb for the story to What Nate Wanted. One might almost suspect that I was afraid of him for some reason ...)
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<br><br>Hey, I'm not sticking a thumb or any other part of my anatomy up, down or out around Nate unless somebody pats him down and checks for knives, swords, machetes, cleavers, scissors, shears, man-portable guillotines, cigar cutters, chain saws, circular saws, band saws, a capella saws (for those who can't afford a band), etc.... Then we'll run him through an airport metal detector and a body cavity search by Bruce-Arnold, winner of the Gay Mr. Universe competition ... <br><br>(Now THERE's a horror story for you. All you need to do to qualify as a participant is have the wrong name, look like you might be an Arab or other Muslim ethnotype (is that a word?), or write disturbing stories about butchering creatures that may or may not be chickens.)<br><br>Robert M....For those of you really creeped out, there's a nice, regular fairy tale coming down the pipe in the next month or two, if that will make you feel better. That is, if Robert gives it a thumbs up...
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<br>I do keep trying to get you to add extra underlying character conflicts and storylines... ;) Sometimes it's the small strokes, not the large ones that hold the key to a good story.<br><br>NateStrangely, I find myself reminded of a line from an Alice Cooper song; "While frends and lovers morn your silly grave- I have *other* uses for you, Darling..."
Oddly enough, the death toll in my Nightwatch has grown allarmingly. I may hold some sort of record... Is 414 a lot? Ha-ha! (Oops! Channeling Jack the Ripper there for a second. Down, Boy!)
Nate certainly spooked quite a few folks this month. Good story. The finer elements went past me until I read the commentary, I'm afraid. I didn't realize you could fit that many wheels within wheels within wheels... Nicely done. Had me doing psychosomatic cringes all the way through.
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<br>Oh, sure, I haaad to tell you about my machete... :)<br><br>BTW-The only person who has been cleaved by it was me, when I dropped it on my own leg by accident. Dang-blammed clumsy fingers. Does a hell of a job on corn stalks and brush, though.<br><br>NateHey, I'm not sticking a thumb or any other part of my anatomy up, down or out around Nate unless somebody pats him down and checks for knives, swords, machetes, cleavers, scissors, shears, man-portable guillotines, cigar cutters, chain saws, circular saws, band saws, a capella saws (for those who can't afford a band), etc.... Then we'll run him through an airport metal detector and a body cavity search by Bruce-Arnold, winner of the Gay Mr. Universe competition ...
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<br><br>Say, you don't happen to own a hockey goalie mask and a set of ratty overalls, do you? (And have Freddy Krueger's head on your mantel as a trophy?)<br><br>Robert M.<br><br>(Edging toward 600 posts! Too bad a lot of them are like this one and have nothing to do with any of the stories ...)Oh, sure, I haaad to tell you about my machete... :)
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Re: Another Sarah by N J Kailhofer
I usually prefer Science Fiction to horror but this story held my interest. I would love to see a short movie based on this story, but then again I perceive things different from most people because I work with a bunch of aliens! Home grown ones that is reared here in the backwoods of Pennsylvania!<br><br>Stories that point in this direction can be a good playground for creativity and I think that all writers should atempt ones such as this!<br><br>Good job and I enjoyed the twists!
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<br>Thanks.<br><br>Stories that point in this direction can be a good playground for creativity and I think that all writers should atempt ones such as this!
Good job and I enjoyed the twists!
<br>So that's the Amish? Or maybe escapees from Philly? :)<br><br>Natebut then again I perceive things different from most people because I work with a bunch of aliens! Home grown ones that is reared here in the backwoods of Pennsylvania!
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Escapees from Philly are too street smart to can where I live! And the Amish? Why, I never seen an Amishman that I didn't like. But then again, I'm not Amish!<br><br>Sadly, I can't talk about what the "home grown aliens" did. But if we ever meet, I'll tell you alone.<br><br>They didn't do anything illegal, and all of them are very good workers who have nice families! Most of them do, anyhow!<br><br>They went to a place that they shouldn't have gone to (not Viet-Nam or any other war or overseas but right here in Pennsylvania) to help out, and the only hint I'll give you is that it is in the middle of a river!<br><br>Most of them are sick now!! They would not listen because of the high pay back then!<br>
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<br><br>Lessee now -- Three Mile Island is in the middle of a river, AND it's in Pennsylvania, isn't it?<br><br>If those folks would post comments about Aphelion stories, would the authors be able to boast about receive (ahem) glowing reviews?<br><br>Robert M....Sadly, I can't talk about what the "home grown aliens" did. But if we ever meet, I'll tell you alone.
They didn't do anything illegal, and all of them are very good workers who have nice families! Most of them do, anyhow!
They went to a place that they shouldn't have gone to (not Viet-Nam or any other war or overseas but right here in Pennsylvania) to help out, and the only hint I'll give you is that it is in the middle of a river!
Most of them are sick now!! They would not listen because of the high pay back then!
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I never thought that it was a bright idea to go there, <br><br> but since they returned most of them have been <br><br> "glowing" brighter ever day!!<br><br> I wonder if Sarah's husband worked there once!!!<br><br><br>
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